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Committee Hearing, June 1, 2005 (part 1)

Minutes from Philadelphia City Council Committee Hearings, Jun 1, 2005

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Council President Verna

Do we have anyone else to testify on these bills? (No response.)

Council President Verna

Do we have anyone else to testify? (No response.)

Council President Verna

65 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole Seeing no one, this will conclude our public hearing. We will now go into our public meeting. Commissioner?

Ms. Tolson

Yes. I apologize. I'm sorry. I just wanted to say that I do ask for the favorable recommendation from this committee and a suspension of the rules.

Council President Verna

Thank you very much. (Committee of the Whole Public Hearing adjourned at 11:55 a.m.) - - - 66 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole CERTIFICATE I HEREBY CERTIFY that the proceedings, evidence and objections are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me upon the foregoing matter on June 1, 2005, and that this is a true and correct transcript of same. ______________________________ MICHELE L. MURPHY RPR-Notary Public (The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means, unless under the direct control and/or supervision of the certifying reporter.) 67 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA PUBLIC MEETING - COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - - - Room 400, City Hall Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Wednesday, June 1, 2005, 11:55 a.m. BILLS 050496, 050497, 050498 and 050499 PRESENT: COUNCIL PRESIDENT ANNA C. VERNA COUNCILWOMAN BLONDELL REYNOLDS BROWN COUNCILMAN JAMES F. KENNEY COUNCILMAN JUAN F. RAMOS COUNCILMAN DAVID COHEN COUNCILMAN FRANK RIZZO COUNCILMAN FRANK DiCICCO COUNCILMAN DARRELL L. CLARKE COUNCILWOMAN DONNA REED MILLER COUNCILWOMAN MARIAN B. TASCO COUNCILMAN MICHAEL A. NUTTER COUNCILMAN BRIAN J. O'NEILL COUNCILMAN W. WILSON GOODE, JR. COUNCILMAN JAMES F. KENNEY COUNCILWOMAN JANNIE L. BLACKWELL COUNCILWOMAN JOAN L. KRAJEWSKI COUNCILMAN RICHARD T. MARIANO V A R A L L O Incorporated Litigation Support Services 1835 Market Street, Suite 600 Philadelphia, PA 19103 215.561.2220 215.567.2670 68 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole

Council President Verna

We are now in our public meeting, and the Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell for a motion on Bill No. 050496.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill 050496 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and properly seconded that Bill 18 No. 050496 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next Council session. All in favor will indicate by saying aye. COUNCIL MEMBERS: Aye. 69 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it. The motion carries. The Chair again recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell regarding Bill No. 9 050497.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill No. 050497 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and also that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session.

Councilwoman Krajewski

Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and properly seconded that Bill 21 No. 050497 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended -- I'm sorry. Councilman Cohen? I'm 70 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole sorry, Councilman. I didn't realize that you had your hand up.

Councilman Cohen

I would like to move to table this bill and instead have this Council adopt the recommendation of the good Reverend about appointing a committee to go and look at Chester. The amount of trash involved is a very small portion of what comes out of Philadelphia. Certainly under these circumstances we can show that we are a good neighbor by intervening in this situation in Chester to deal as much as is possible with the conditions of environmental injustice that seem to exist.

Council President Verna

Thank you.

Councilman Cohen

The Reverend spoke glowingly of former Council member and Congressman Blackwell of his interest in this situation. I remember when this matter was raised at the beginning of this present number of contracts went into effect, and if the 71 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole position still prevails, it certainly does not help us in Pennsylvania to have the people in Chester feel that Philadelphia, much larger city, is taking advantage of a situation. At the same time, we're not endangering anything, because we have four contracts and this deals, I think, with only 350 tons out of 3,000 tons. And it would be my hope that before the end of June we could work out with the Chester authorities sufficient safeguards to make that community feel that it's not being used as a cesspool for Philadelphia trash. How would we like it if another municipality came to Philadelphia to a residential area and dumped in an unsafe way trash on our streets, endangering the lives and health of our kids and of the community? And I suggest we follow the good Reverend's ideas that we act toward Chester as if it were a community in Philadelphia. And I would, therefore, hope that we delay this action. There's no problem with the waste. Chester, I'm sure, would be willing to agree that they will -- you know the contract is now 72 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole in existence to the end of the month. Long before that period I'm sure things could be adjusted. So I move, Madam President, that this bill be tabled so that the proposal made by the Reverend could be carried out.

Council President Verna

All right. Is there a second?

Councilman Kenney

Second.

Council President Verna

All in favor will indicate by saying aye.

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Council President Verna

I think we need a roll call. Councilman Cohen has made a motion to table this bill and it was seconded by Councilman Kenney, so we will take a roll call. Councilwoman Blackwell?

Councilwoman Blackwell

No. 22

Council President Verna

Councilman Clarke?

Councilman Clarke

No. 25

Council President Verna

73 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole Councilman Cohen?

Councilman Cohen

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman DiCicco?

Councilman Dicicco

No. 7

Council President Verna

Councilman Goode?

Councilman Goode

No. 10

Council President Verna

Councilman Kenney?

Councilman Kenney

Aye.

Council President Verna

Councilman Kelly is not present. Councilwoman Krajewski?

Councilwoman Krajewski

No. 17

Council President Verna

Councilman Mariano?

Councilman Mariano

No. 20

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Miller?

Councilwoman Miller

No. 23

Council President Verna

Councilman Nutter?

Councilman Nutter

No. 74 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole

Council President Verna

Councilman O'Neill?

Councilman O'Neill

No. 5

Council President Verna

Councilman Ramos?

Councilman Ramos

No. 8

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Reynolds?

Councilwoman Brown

No. 11

Council President Verna

Councilman Rizzo?

Councilman Rizzo

No. 14

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Tasco?

Councilwoman Tasco

No. 17

Council President Verna

Councilwoman Verna? No. 19 The no's are 14 and the aye's are two. The motion fails. It had been moved and seconded that Bill No. 050497 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our 75 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole next session of Council. All in favor will indicate by saying aye. COUNCIL MEMBERS: Aye.

Council President Verna

Those opposed?

Councilman Cohen

No. 9

Council President Verna

The record will reflect that Councilman Cohen voted in the negative, all other Council members voted in the affirmative. The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell regarding Bill No. 050498.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill No. 050498 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and, furthermore, that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council.

Councilman Ramos

Second.

Council President Verna

It has been moved and properly seconded that Bill 25 No. 050498 be reported out of committee with a 76 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. All in favor will indicate by saying aye. COUNCIL MEMBERS: Aye.

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it and the motion carries.

Council President Verna

The Chair recognizes Councilwoman Blackwell for a motion on Bill No. 050499.

Councilwoman Blackwell

Thank you, Madam President. I move that Bill No. 050499 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation and, furthermore, that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council.

Councilman Ramos

Second.

Council President Verna

It 77 6/1/05 - Bill Nos. 050496, 97, 98, 99 - Whole has been moved and seconded that Bill No. 3 050499 be reported out of committee with a favorable recommendation. Also, a recommendation that the rules of Council be suspended so as to permit first reading at our next session of Council. All in favor will please indicate by saying aye. COUNCIL MEMBERS: Aye.

Council President Verna

Those opposed? (No response.)

Council President Verna

The ayes have it. The motion carries. And that concludes our public meeting. I thank you all for your patience, and I believe at 1 o'clock we will have the public hearing on NTI. See you all then. (Committee of the Whole public meeting adjourned at 12:00 p.m.) - - - 78 CERTIFICATE I HEREBY CERTIFY that the proceedings, evidence and objections are contained fully and accurately in the stenographic notes taken by me upon the foregoing matter on June 1, 2005, and that this is a true and correct transcript of same. ______________________________ MICHELE L. MURPHY RPR-Notary Public (The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means, unless under the direct control and/or supervision of the certifying reporter.)